341 N1089W Bonanza Takeoff Crash at KISP, Long Island MacArthur Airport

In this special episode of Aviation News Talk, Max discusses a recent fatal crash involving N1089W, a Beechcraft A36 Bonanza, at MacArthur Airport in Long Island. The aircraft lost power shortly after takeoff, leading the pilot to attempt a 180-degree turn back to the runway, a maneuver often referred to as the “impossible turn.” The plane crashed short of Runway 6, resulting in the deaths of both the pilot and passenger.

The aircraft, with both the pilot and a passenger on board, took off at around 6:15 p.m. local time. Shortly after takeoff, the engine began to sputter and pop, as reported by an airport employee who witnessed the event. The plane reached an altitude of approximately 150 feet before the pilot attempted to turn back to the runway. The aircraft crashed just short of Runway 6, with the wreckage indicating a left wing low and nose-low impact. The left wing and main landing gear were significantly damaged, and the engine was found separated from the aircraft.

Max analyzes the situation, noting the difficulty of executing what is often called the “impossible turn”—a 180-degree turn back to the runway after an engine failure on takeoff. He explains that this maneuver is challenging, especially for faster aircraft like the Bonanza, due to their larger turn radius. The episode includes a discussion of the physics involved, noting that a faster aircraft’s turn radius increases with the square of its speed. This makes it significantly harder for such aircraft to return to the runway compared to slower aircraft.

The podcast emphasizes that the “impossible turn” often involves more than just a simple 180-degree turn. Due to the offset from the runway, pilots typically need to execute additional turns, making the total turn angle around 306 degrees. Max cites an aviation organization video that demonstrates the challenges of this turn with different aircraft types, including a Bonanza, which failed to complete the turn in the demonstration.

Max also explores alternative options that might have been available to the pilot. He suggests that had the pilot used the full length of Runway 24 instead of making an intersection departure from Taxiway Bravo, the aircraft might have had a better chance of reaching a different landing surface, such as Taxiway Whiskey or Runway 6. He speculates that the pilot might have chosen the intersection departure for convenience, as the FBOs are closer to this point than the start of Runway 24. This decision, while saving a few minutes, may have limited the pilot’s options in the emergency.

He also notes that pilots’ instincts often drive them to turn back to the runway, which feels like a safe haven. However, this instinctual reaction can be dangerous, as the necessary maneuvers to return to the runway are complex and fraught with risk. Max advises that pilots should instead prepare for potential emergencies by identifying suitable landing spots straight ahead, which can be reached without attempting the risky turn back.

Max shares a list of ten key points from episode 68 on the “impossible turn,” highlighting the dangers and complexities of the maneuver. He advises against practicing the “impossible turn” at low altitudes and stresses the importance of thorough training and preparation for emergencies.

The episode concludes with Max encouraging pilots to always use the full length of the runway if possible, to increase their options in case of an emergency. Max’s overarching message is one of preparedness, caution, and the importance of continuous training for pilots.

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327 N84R Beech A36 Crash in KY – Pilot Breaks multiple FAA Rules + GA News

Max discusses a tragic accident that involved a 55-year-old physician who crashed his Beech A36 aircraft, N84R, at Tucker Guthrie Memorial Airport in Harlan, Kentucky, on November 3, 2022. The pilot departed from Knoxville at around 9:32 a.m. with the purpose of attending scheduled appointments at a medical office near the destination airport.

Despite low instrument flight conditions at the time of arrival, the pilot did not file a flight plan, communicate with ATC, or receive a weather briefing before departure. Upon arrival in the airport area, he announced over the CTAF his intention to circle for landing. However, subsequent flight track data revealed that the airplane completed a total of three approaches to the runway, none of which were consistent with the published instrument approach procedure, and all were conducted in low instrument flight conditions.

Witness accounts and flight track data suggested that the pilot routinely landed at the airport under similar weather conditions in the past, displaying a pattern of circling approaches not consistent with published procedures. Additionally, the investigation revealed that the pilot was not instrument current and had a history of conducting circling maneuvers in instrument meteorological conditions (IMC) without clearance.

The NTSB’s final report identified the pilot’s hazardous anti-authority attitude as a contributing factor to the accident, along with his decision to fly into IMC without proper clearance or adherence to established procedures. Furthermore, toxicology testing revealed the presence of methamphetamine and phentermine in the pilot’s system, both of which are substances prohibited by the FAA for pilots due to their potential to impair judgment and performance.

The NTSB emphasized the importance of recognizing and countering hazardous attitudes, such as anti-authority, through adherence to regulations and good decision-making practices. It also highlighted the necessity of effective risk management and honest self-assessment, particularly regarding medical fitness and proficiency in flying. Psychological factors such as risk-taking tendencies, normalization of deviance, and overconfidence were also discussed as potential influences on the pilot’s decision-making process.

Ultimately, the probable cause of the accident was determined to be the pilot’s decision to continue visual flight into IMC during an approach to land, resulting in controlled flight into terrain. The NTSB’s findings underscored the critical importance of adherence to regulations, proper training, and vigilant risk management to ensure aviation safety and prevent avoidable accidents.

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213 Why You Should Join a Type Club – Interview Catherine Cavagnaro

213 Why You Should Join a Type Club – Interview Catherine Cavagnaro

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213 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about aircraft type clubs and why pilots should join one. There are more than a hundred of them, yet only a fraction of pilots belong to one. Yet they offer the best value proposition in aviation: they’re cheap and they could save your life. Most type clubs offer a newsletter or magazine and many have a web site loaded with aircraft details. 

As I wrote in a blog article for AOPA eight years ago, “Give yourself an early Christmas present: Join the type club for the aircraft you fly most frequently. But don’t just write a check; become an active participant. Whether you own or rent, you’re bound to learn more about the intricacies of that aircraft model. And if your family is lucky, what you learn as a type club member may someday save your life…and possibly their lives too.”

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American Bonanza Society
Cessna 150/152 Club
Cessna Pilots Association
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Lake Amphibian Club
AOPA’s Type Club Listings
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184 Boeing Test Pilot Has IFR Engine Out Emergency in a Beech Bonanza

184 Boeing Test Pilot Has IFR Engine Out Emergency in a Beech Bonanza

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184 Max talks with Boeing Experimental Test Pilot and former naval aviator John Tougas about his engine failure in a Beech Bonanza. In August 2020, John was flying IFR at 5000‘ above multiple cloud layers. At approximately 7 miles from Jacksonville, FL the crankshaft suddenly broke and the engine stopped. ATC gave him two vectors to the field, and John broke out of the clouds over the numbers.

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167 Fuel Exhaustion and Fuel Starvation Accidents + GA News

167 Fuel Exhaustion and Fuel Starvation Accidents + GA News

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167 Max talks about several recent fuel-related accidents and what the FAA’s Risk Management Handbook and the Pilot’s Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge say pilots can do to avoid these kinds of accidents. Listener feedback includes an FAA legal opinion on how pilots can use a non-CFII to get instrument current in actual conditions. And a controller asks about how pilots get to the MEA without an ODP.

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Fatal Fuel Exhaustion Accident Jackson, TN
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Airports with Nearby Outdoor Activities
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109 Avoiding Midair and Near Midair Collisions + General Aviation News


109 Avoiding Midair and Near Midair Collisions + GA News

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109 Max talks about Avoiding Midair and Near Midair Collisions. He recently had two near midair collisions (NMAC). While midair collisions are rare, NMACs are common, and pilots who have one should report it to the FAA. Collisions are more likely with aircraft with no radios and with agricultural aircraft. To avoid midairs, pilots should use flight following and good scanning techniques.

MidAir collision studies and Related Links
AOPA Nall Reports
AOPA Safety Advisor: Collision Avoidance
Near Mid Air Collision Searchable Database
Near Midair Collisions: How Many Really Occur?
MIT Study: Mid-Air Collision Risk
Study: Categorization of Near-Collision Close Calls – ASRS data
ASRS Database Report Set – NMAC Incidents
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FAA Aerospace Forecast 2019-2039
Collings Foundation Schedule
AOPA Regional Fly-in Livermore, CA
Book: Mountain Canyon and Backcountry Flying
CFI Bookcamp
Cirrus Pilot Proficiency Program (CPPP) – Chicago June 28-30
EAA Pilot Proficiency Center CFI Volunteers Needed
Pilot crashes during slow flight competition
Colorado Crash – VFR into IMC kills family of four
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Episode 42 – Portable ASDS-B Receiver Limitations

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