360 8 Flight Training Experiences to Make You a Better Pilot with Dr. Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

Max Trescott welcomes back Dr. Catherine Cavagnaro to discuss enriching aviation experiences, further ratings, and the value of ongoing pilot education. The conversation flows through personal stories, training tips, and ideas to help pilots enhance their skills while having fun in the process.

Family Traditions and Adventure Flying
Catherine begins by sharing her unique family holiday tradition of gifting experiences instead of physical items. Her children select adventures, such as flying to Fredericksburg, Texas, to see a midget submarine or Chicago to view a U-boat. These adventures often involve flying in her airplane, blending her love for aviation with family time. She emphasizes the lasting value of shared experiences compared to material gifts.

Flight Training as a Gift to Oneself
Max and Catherine transition into discussing ways pilots can invest in themselves through flight training. Catherine, a self-described “training junkie,” encourages pilots to identify areas where they need improvement and consider advanced training or certifications as “gifts” to themselves. She highlights her own journey, including obtaining a glider rating, which taught her invaluable lessons about best glide speeds and unpowered landings—skills often overlooked in powered flight.

The Benefits of Instrument and Commercial Ratings
The discussion delves into the practical and intellectual benefits of pursuing an instrument rating. Catherine describes how instrument training enhances precision, multitasking, and situational awareness, making pilots smoother and more deliberate. Max agrees, noting how instrument skills improve pilots’ pre-arrival planning and overall preparedness.

For the commercial rating, Catherine recounts a formative moment during her training when her instructor taught her to avoid abrupt power changes that passengers might feel. This attention to passenger comfort epitomizes the commercial mindset—being authoritative yet smooth in handling the aircraft. Max adds that commercial training also addresses subtleties like avoiding “riding the brakes” on taxi, improving both performance and passenger experience.

Specialized Training for New Skills
Catherine highlights the value of specialized courses that are both educational and enjoyable. She emphasizes several areas of training:

Spin Training: Often misunderstood, spins are essential for improving a pilot’s confidence in handling stalls and recovery. Catherine advocates for full spin training to reduce pilots’ fear and build a deep understanding of stall dynamics.

Mountain Flying: Mountain flying courses teach critical skills like canyon turns, which differ significantly from maneuvers like Chandelles, and prepare pilots for the unique challenges of high-terrain operations.

Tailwheel Training: Flying a tailwheel aircraft refines rudder use and directional control, forcing pilots to develop peripheral vision for takeoffs and landings. Catherine describes it as fun and transformative, sharing her own experience transitioning from a Piper Cub to a Cessna 185.

Seaplane Rating: Seaplane training, typically completed in a few days, offers a quick and rewarding new skillset, often requiring travel to regions like Florida, Minnesota, or the Pacific Northwest.

Real IFR Training for Practical Use
Catherine critiques the narrow focus of typical instrument training on approaches, leaving pilots underprepared for real-world IFR travel. She advocates for immersive IFR courses, where pilots spend several days flying cross-country, learning about enroute planning, departure procedures, and altitude selection. Max highlights instructors like Doug Stewart (East Coast) and Field Morey (West Coast), who offer multi-day IFR adventure trips, including a notable 25-hour Alaska experience.

Advanced Avionics Training
Modern glass cockpits can overwhelm pilots without proper training. Catherine shares her experience upgrading her Bonanza with a fully modern panel and how targeted avionics training helped her optimize its use. Max agrees that avionics are a weak area for many pilots since certifications often neglect them. He advises pilots to spend hours on the ground with powered avionics, learning to configure displays and recover from errors. Both encourage CFIs to specialize in avionics training to meet growing demand.

The Value of Lifelong Learning
Max and Catherine conclude by encouraging pilots to embrace continuous learning, whether through new ratings, specialized courses, or avionics mastery. They emphasize that nearly all these activities can satisfy flight review requirements while providing enjoyment and skill development. Catherine humorously shares that her ATP certification stemmed from needing a flight review—proof that pursuing growth often leads to unexpected achievements.

Key Takeaways for Pilots:

  • Prioritize experiences over things: Adventure flying creates lasting memories.
  • Use flight training as a gift to yourself: Focus on skills that need honing.
  • Ratings like instrument and commercial improve precision, multitasking, and passenger comfort.
  • Specialized training—like spin, mountain, tailwheel, or seaplane courses—adds tools to your pilot toolbox and can be completed quickly.
  • Invest in real IFR training to become confident in using your aircraft for cross-country travel.
  • Master your avionics: Spend time on the ground optimizing and learning your systems.
  • Lifelong learning in aviation keeps flying exciting and makes you a safer pilot.

Dr. Cavagnaro and Max agree that embracing new challenges not only sharpens flying skills but also brings immense joy. Whether it’s spin training, advanced IFR, or avionics mastery, pilots are encouraged to pursue growth, learning, and fun in their aviation journeys.

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208 Commercial Flight Training, Fly Like a Pro, It’s the Little Things that Count with Catherine Cavagnaro

208 Commercial Flight Training, Fly Like a Pro, It’s the Little Things that Count with Catherine Cavagnaro

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208 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about 36 things pilots can do to improve, so they’ll fly more professionally and increase the odds of passing the Private and Commercial checkrides. These include preflight briefings, taxiing, the run up, clearing turns, preparing for landing, crosswind landings, braking, and prop blast. She also talks about The University of the South aviation program.

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163 How Safe is Commercial Air Travel?

163 How Safe is Commercial Air Travel?

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163 Max talks about his roundtrip from SFO to Knoxville on the airlines and an MIT study that estimates the chances of catching COVID on an airline flight. While the terminals appear safe, the highest risk is in flight, as not everyone is properly masked. He shares what he learned about the mask he was wearing and has recommendations for choosing a mask. While safe, airline travel isn’t a lot of fun.

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151 Understanding Airworthiness – Interview with DPE Seth Lake

151 Understanding Airworthiness – Interview with DPE Seth Lake

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151 Pilot examiner Seth Lake talks about the many aspects of airworthiness
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149 How to Really Fly Commercial Certificate Maneuvers – Interview with DPE Jason Blair

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149 Pilot examiner Jason Blair talks about what you need to know for the Commercial checkride. He focuses on how to Commercial maneuvers including chandelles, steep spirals, lazy eights, eights on pylons, and 180° accuracy landings. The oral portion is similar to the Private, but with an emphasis on Commercial certificate privileges, and no it doesn’t allow you to immediately start flying charter.

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121 Getting a Multi-engine rating – Interview Seth Lake

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121 Getting a Multi-engine rating – Interview Seth Lake

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121 Max talks with pilot examiner Seth Lake of VSL Aviation about getting a multi-engine rating in light twin aircraft and the most efficient order for pilots to get their Commercial and multi engine ratings. Seth also describes terms multi-engine pilots need to know including Vmca and Vyse and what to expect on a multi-engine checkride. He also gives a six step process for managing engine failures.

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108 How to Become an Airline Pilot – Interview with Aviation Industry Careers Coach Carl Valeri

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108 Airline Pilot Carl Valeri talks about many details pilots need to attend to get hired by an airline. In additional to required pilot certificates and flight time, pilots should avoid arrests, having a DUI, and speeding tickets. They need to be extremely careful in what they post online, as airline recruiters will review their social media. Logbook edits should be made correctly.

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