349 Buying and Flying a Cirrus SR22 from California to Missouri + GA News

In this episode of the Aviation News Talk podcast, Max interviews Nicholas Jain, who recently purchased a Cirrus SR22 and flew it from California to Missouri. The two aviation enthusiasts detail their shared experience in buying the plane, conducting the pre-purchase process, and navigating a cross-country flight through various weather and terrain challenges.

The episode begins with Nicholas arriving at San Jose Airport on a Wednesday evening to meet Max. After picking up a rental car, they immediately began their journey south to Santa Maria, where the aircraft had been moved after a pre-buy inspection. This was not Nicholas’s first trip to California related to the purchase. Two weeks earlier, he had flown out to meet Max and conduct a test flight in the Cirrus. This test flight, which lasted about an hour, provided both of them with an opportunity to assess the aircraft’s systems and functionality. Afterward, Nicholas arranged for a local pilot to fly the plane to Santa Maria, where it would undergo a more detailed inspection at a maintenance facility that had not worked on the aircraft before. He found the maintenance shop through COPA (Cirrus Owners and Pilots Association), which Max recommends to all Cirrus owners and renters for the wealth of resources and knowledge available through the community.

Their three-and-a-half-hour drive from San Jose to Santa Maria ended around 11 PM, and they stayed at a hotel conveniently located near the airport. The next morning, while Max was returning the rental car, Nicholas pre-flighted the SR22 at the maintenance facility. The aircraft was new to him, so he checked the oil levels, borrowed a fuel sump from the shop, and ensured that the plane had what was needed for the upcoming long flight. Nicholas shared his concerns about small, overlooked items like fuel strainers, which are often removed by sellers before transferring an aircraft.

Weather conditions at Santa Maria were not ideal, with an overcast layer at 300 feet, typical of the marine layer that rolls in from the coast. Nicholas, however, felt confident in departing with an ILS approach available at the airport. The marine layer eventually lifted slightly to 400 feet, and they were able to take off and head towards their first destination, Arizona.

Nicholas and Max discussed the challenges of navigating through mountainous terrain shortly after departure. Flying IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) at the required altitudes for safety would have placed them much higher than they preferred, especially since the SR22 was not equipped with oxygen. Therefore, they opted for a VFR (Visual Flight Rules) route once they were above the clouds to better navigate the lower mountain passes. Nicholas remarked on how different the terrain was compared to his home in Missouri, where most of his flying is done over flat land. He particularly noticed the effects of updrafts and downdrafts while flying through the mountains.

Their first stop in Arizona was the Grand Canyon Airport, which they chose because of its cooler temperatures and favorable conditions compared to other potential stops like Flagstaff or Prescott. Nicholas and Max were greeted by a friendly Twin Otter pilot, Sam Buchanan, who lent them his truck to get lunch while they refueled. This act of kindness stood out to them as one of the most memorable moments of the trip, highlighting the camaraderie often found in the aviation community.

After their stop at the Grand Canyon, the two pilots faced a long leg to Albuquerque. As they approached, they could see weather starting to build beyond the city, and although Albuquerque had clear skies, they made the decision to stay the night due to fatigue. Max emphasized the importance of recognizing when to stop early, citing their five-hour flight time and the building weather as key factors in their decision to land.

The following morning, they took off for Wichita, Kansas, with the goal of reaching Nicholas’s home near St. Louis. Max suggested departing VFR to save time, which allowed them to navigate the mountain passes more easily. Nicholas was not used to mountain flying, so he found the constant pitch adjustments to maintain proper climb speed during the departure to be an interesting challenge. Max provided valuable guidance on managing the aircraft’s performance through the updrafts and downdrafts, and they successfully cleared the mountains. Once clear, they picked up their IFR clearance and continued towards Wichita.

At Wichita, they made an impressively fast fuel stop, completing everything within half an hour. Nicholas remarked on the convenience of having a Subway sandwich shop inside the FBO, which allowed them to refuel both the plane and themselves quickly. Max noted that it was one of the fastest turnarounds he had experienced.

On the final leg of the journey, flying IFR from Wichita to Missouri, they encountered some unexpected weather and had to make several deviations around towering cumulus clouds. The SR22’s avionics allowed them to monitor weather and terrain effectively, helping them avoid significant turbulence and rain. However, towards the end of the trip, they experienced an unexpected issue: they lost engine instrumentation on the Garmin Perspective system. All data related to the engine, including RPM, manifold pressure, and fuel levels, disappeared from the display. This introduced a new layer of complexity to the flight, including the final landing.

Throughout the episode, both Max and Nicholas emphasized the importance of thorough planning, flexibility, and safety in long cross-country flights. They also shared how the unique challenges of the trip, from mountain flying to unexpected technical issues, provided valuable learning experiences for both pilots.

In conclusion, this episode provides an insightful look into the process of buying a plane and flying it across the country. Max and Nicholas’s journey highlights the importance of preparation, adaptation, and the strong sense of community within the aviation world.

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325 N51FM SR22 Crash at Paso Robles – When to fly the Hold at an IF/IAF

Max talks about the accident of N51FM, a Cirrus SR22T at Paso Robles, CA, and emphasizes the importance of understanding approach procedures, particularly when starting an approach from an IF/IAF fix with a racetrack. The accident involved a pilot who failed to follow correct procedures, leading to a crash, though fortunately, all occupants survived. Max breaks down the mistakes made by the pilot and discusses the implications for instrument pilots.

The flight began in Scottsdale, AZ, with the aircraft flying towards Paso Robles after a stop at Big Bear, CA. The host highlights deviations from standard procedures during the approach to Big Bear and the subsequent flight to Paso Robles. The pilot’s missteps include flying the traffic pattern in the wrong direction and excessive speeds that deviated from Cirrus standard operating procedures.

The crucial part of the flight occurs when the aircraft receives clearance for an RNAV (GPS) approach to Paso Robles, specifically to the combined IF/IAF waypoint HOVLI. The host emphasizes the importance of understanding approach segments and when to fly holds at IF/IAFs. In this case, the pilot was required to fly a holding pattern at HOVLI due to the direction of approach. However, the pilot failed to adhere to this requirement, leading to subsequent errors.

After receiving clearance for the approach, the pilot failed to fly the hold at HOVLI, resulting in being significantly above the required altitudes for subsequent fixes. The aircraft’s approach becomes unstable, with including reaching the Vne speed of 208 knots on the approach, and a descent rate that reached 2300 feet per minute. Fortunately, the pilot decided to circle back to runway 19, but instead lined up for runway 13, and then crashing between the two runways.

Max analyzes the human factors that may have influenced the pilot’s decision-making, including pressure to complete the flight, risk perception, and overconfidence. The importance of recognizing and mitigating these human factors is emphasized, highlighting the need for robust training and a safety-oriented mindset.

The accident serves as a cautionary tale, highlighting the consequences of deviating from standard procedures and the importance of maintaining situational awareness and decision-making abilities, especially in challenging situations. The host encourages pilots to prioritize safety, utilize resources effectively, and be willing to execute a go-around when necessary.

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310 Cirrus SR20 and SR22 G7 with New Garmin Avionics + GA News

This episode discusses the new features of the G7 models of the Cirrus SR20 and SR22 aircraft, with a particular focus on avionics and other enhancements. The G7 introduces several improvements over its predecessor, the G6.

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One notable change is the automatic fuel tank alternation in the G7, eliminating the need for pilots to manually switch fuel tanks. This feature, borrowed from the Vision Jet, enhances fuel management and simplifies the flying experience. Additionally, the inclusion of a stick shaker, a common feature in jets, provides tactile feedback to pilots when approaching a stall, potentially improving safety.

The flap switch has also been modified, displaying flap positions and limitations on the avionics. This integration allows for new safety features, such as flaps under speed and over speed protection, preventing deployment or retraction at inappropriate airspeeds.

The G7 incorporates a lightweight lithium-ion starter battery, offering a 20-pound weight reduction compared to the G6. The smart battery monitors itself to optimize performance. The introduction of a push-button starter switch, inspired by the Vision Jet, eliminates the need for a key.

A new storage cubby below the autopilot provides convenient space for personal items, enhancing the overall user experience. Cirrus has relocated environmental controls to make them more accessible and user-friendly, resembling automotive-type air conditioning controls.

Accent lighting inside the aircraft has been improved, along with new color options and exterior designs. The changes aim to enhance the overall aesthetics and comfort of the aircraft.

Moving on to avionics, there’s some uncertainty around whether the G7 features G2000 or G3000 avionics. However, the more critical aspect is the use of Perspective Touch+, the same software found in the Vision Jet. The G7’s avionics changes align with Cirrus’s strategy to make transitioning from the SR22 to the Vision Jet more seamless for customers.

The avionics system boasts a pair of 14-inch displays with increased resolution, offering a better view for tasks such as chart viewing and weather monitoring. Unlike other installations, the G7 omits softkeys on the displays, opting for horizontally oriented touchscreen controllers below the displays. The controllers control different functions, with the left one managing the PFD and MFD, while the right one handles radios and audio. The touchscreen controllers resemble those used in the Garmin GTN 650 and 750 navigators.

Cirrus has simplified the bolster panel, integrating the oxygen switch and displaying oxygen pressure on the MFD. The system includes 3D safe taxi, displaying airport features and providing taxi routing. A Checklist Scroll Wheel, inspired by the Vision Jet, simplifies checklist navigation.

Other notable improvements include a redesigned placard for the CAPS parachute handle, addressing accessibility concerns. A restyled throttle lever and molded-in cupholders contribute to a more streamlined and user-friendly cockpit. Additional USB-C ports and drag reduction measures, such as smoother seams and redesigned wheel fairings, round out the enhancements.

In conclusion, the Cirrus SR22 G7 introduces a range of features and improvements aimed at enhancing safety, user experience, and aesthetics. The avionics upgrades align with Cirrus’s strategy to facilitate a smooth transition for pilots moving from the SR22 to the Vision Jet.

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272 Spatial Disorientation and SOPs: Analyzing Three Recent Accidents

272 Spatial Disorientation and SOPs: Analyzing Three Recent Accidents

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272 Max talks about three recent accidents, all of which should have been avoidable. Interestingly, two of them involve helicopters, and yet the lessons we can learn from them apply directly to fixed wing pilots as well. Two of the three accidents involve failure to follow standard operating procedures, and two of them appear to include spatial disorientation.

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215 Buying and Flying a Cirrus SR22 from Indiana to California + GA News

215 Buying and Flying a Cirrus SR22 from Indiana to California + GA News

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215 Max talks with Dmitry Dakhnovsky about their recent trip buying and then flying an SR22 from Indianapolis to California. Something always seems to happen on these long trips, and in this case the challenge was with the weather as they neared their destination. There’s lots of discussion about the alternatives they considered, and how they always had a Plan B at every step of journey.

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170 Mastering the Go-Around – Safety Talk with Rob Mark

170 Mastering the Go-Around – Safety Talk with Rob Mark
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170 Max talks with Flying Magazine Sr. Editor Rob Mark about some accidents and close calls involving go-arounds and techniques you can use when going around. Rob tells a story about how he nearly died during a go-around soon after he got his Private certificate. A doctor died in a Cirrus in NJ after an unstable approach, a bounced landing, and a poorly managed go-around.

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168 How to Avoid Deadly Weather-Related Accidents – Safety Moment with Rob Mark

168 How to Avoid Deadly Weather-Related Accidents – Safety Moment with Rob Mark

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168 Max talks with Flying Mag Sr. Editor Rob Mark about two recent fatal weather-related accidents and strategies for avoiding them. A family of four was killed in a SR22 after a low time Private pilot took off for a long trip at night and encountered weather. A doctor flying a Cessna 210 crashed in Texas while flying an instrument approach in freezing rain. A timely 180 could have saved both pilots.

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162 Cirrus SR22 Crashes on an Instrument Approach after Unnecessary Fuel Stop and Many Other Risk Factors + GA News

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Max talks about a fatal crash with many risk factors including a pilot who had low total flying time and relatively little experience in an SR22. After a 5-hour flight, flown late at night, he flew past his destination to buy cheap fuel at another airport close to his home. During that time, his home field went below minimums. He appeared to be unaware he was flying parallel, but offset by 0.6 miles laterally, throughout the entire approach. He ended up crashing a mile short of the runway. The accident pilot made a similar mistake during an instrument approach he flew two nights earlier. However that time, after flying parallel and offset from the final approach course for a full minute, he noticed his error and slowly corrected, getting back on course just at the Final Approach Fix.

These similar errors suggest the pilot was not looking at the HSI for primary course guidance during his instrument approaches. Most likely, he was instead referring to the moving map for course guidance. Unfortunately the moving map presents virtually the same image whether you’re slightly off course or far outside the bounds of the instrument approach, as this pilot was. Depending upon how the map range is set, the map looks virtually the same in both cases. I occasionally see instrument pilots make this mistake and I always tell them they must use the HSI (or CDI), not the moving map, for primary course guidance.

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153 Normalization of Deviance and Red Bull Air Races – Interview with Mike Goulian

153 Normalization of Deviance and Red Bull Air Races – Interview with Mike Goulian

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153 Aerobatic national champion and air show pilot Mike Goulian talks about how if a pilot or an organization gets away with deviant behavior, it becomes normalized. Mike shares observations on air show accidents, the changes brought about by the ICAS Safety Creed, and his own personal experience of being called out by an air show pilot for a subtle change Mike made in his air show performances.

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147 Essential Tips on Aircraft Ownership – Interview with Mike Busch of Savvy Aviation


147 Essential Tips on Aircraft Ownership – Interview with Mike Busch of Savvy Aviation

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Summary
147 Max talks with Mike Busch, author of four books on general aviation piston aircraft maintenance, about essential aircraft ownership tips. Mike talks about how to protect aircraft engines from corrosion if the plane isn’t flown and about post-maintenance test flights and how they should be flown. He also relates horror stories of pilots who tried to save money by buying a cheap airplane.

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