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386 When a Door Ajar Becomes a Fatal Distraction: GA Door-Open Accidents and What Pilots Should Do + GA News

A cabin door pops open just after takeoff. It’s noisy, surprising—but the aircraft is still flying just fine. So why are general aviation pilots still crashing and dying in these scenarios? In this episode, Max explores the unsettling trend of fatal accidents caused not by mechanical failure, but by how pilots react to in-flight distractions—specifically, an open cabin or baggage door.

In just the first five months of 2025, four U.S. GA crashes involved doors opening shortly after takeoff. Three were fatal; the fourth resulted in serious burn injuries. Max walks through each accident in detail, including the tragic crashes of a Beech Baron in Colorado, a Vans RV-10 in California, a Beech A36TC in Pennsylvania, and a Piper Saratoga in Florida. In all cases, the door opening startled the pilot, who either tried to immediately return at low altitude or became distracted from flying. The result: stalls, spins, or uncontrolled impacts—none of which were caused by the open door itself. Drawing from FAA guidance, NTSB investigations, and personal experience with over two dozen open-door incidents, Max explains exactly how pilots should handle this situation. The key? Don’t panic. Don’t try to fix the problem in the air. Fly the airplane, climb to pattern altitude, and land normally. You’ll also learn about door designs that are more prone to issues—like gull-wing doors on RV-10s and Columbias, or rear doors on Diamonds—and the importance of educating passengers on how to respond. The episode also includes real-world listener stories, POH comparisons across different aircraft, and a review of FAA training materials that stress proper task management in abnormal situations. Max reminds pilots that an open door is not an emergency—it’s a test of focus. If mishandled, it can become a fatal distraction. But with the right knowledge and discipline, it should be a non-event. This episode is a must-listen for every GA pilot—because distractions happen, and it’s how we respond that makes the difference. If you’re getting value from this show, please support the show via PayPal, Venmo, Zelle or Patreon. Support the Show by buying a Lightspeed ANR Headsets Max has been using only Lightspeed headsets for nearly 25 years! I love their tradeup program that let’s you trade in an older Lightspeed headset for a newer model. Start with one of the links below, and Lightspeed will pay a referral fee to support Aviation News Talk. Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset $1199 Lightspeed Zulu 3 Headset $899 Lightspeed Sierra Headset $699 My Review on the Lightspeed Delta Zulu Send us your feedback or comments via email If you have a question you’d like answered on the show, let listeners hear you ask the question, by recording your listener question using your phone. News Stories

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385 N666DS Citation S550 Crash in San Diego – Flying below Minimums

Max Trescott examines the tragic crash of a Citation S550, N666DS, in San Diego during an attempted RNAV (GPS) 28R approach to Montgomery Field at approximately 3:46 AM. After departing Teterboro, NJ, and making a fuel stop at Wichita’s Jabara Field, the pilot continued westbound overnight.

After refueling, the flight continued to San Diego, where the Montgomery Field AWOS was inoperative, and weather was marginal. The pilot requested weather at nearby airports. The aircraft correctly crossed the final approach fix PENYY at 2500 feet but then flew below the glide path and failed to stabilize. Speeds decreased from 200 knots to 124 knots on final, increasing workload and destabilizing the descent. Flight path data suggests the pilot may have flown the approach as if it were a non-precision LNAV approach, mistakenly observing step-downs like the PALOS fix, which applies only to LNAV. Two level-offs occurred—one around 1300–1400 feet, then again at 500 feet—further evidence of a step-down approach profile, inconsistent with a stabilized LPV descent. Ultimately, the jet was 173 feet below LPV minimums and 440 feet below LNAV minimums when it leveled at 500 feet before crashing. The autopilot appeared to be disengaged near the end, with irregular lateral path and a brief climb after leveling at 500 feet. Fatigue may have played a significant role, as the pilot had been flying for over 7.5 hours and the crash occurred at 3:45 AM Pacific (6:45 AM Eastern), squarely in the circadian low period when alertness suffers. Max points out that older aircraft like this 40-year-old Citation often have non-intuitive or limited autopilot functionality for RNAV approaches. Social media commenters speculated the aircraft may have had either a non-WAAS FMS providing limited vertical guidance, or a Jet Tech STC’d Garmin 750 setup requiring autopilot workarounds. Either case complicates RNAV approach execution—especially when the pilot is tired. Given the ILS 28R approach was available and offered the same minimums, Max questions why the pilot didn’t choose it. Even older autopilots generally handle ILS approaches more reliably than LPV. He concludes that while RNAV approaches are preferred in modern aircraft, an older jet with dated avionics at night, may warrant choosing the simpler, more robust ILS option. Max reiterates a fundamental safety takeaway: Always tailor your approach to the aircraft and situation. What works best in a G1000 or G3000 might not be safe in a 1980s-era Citation. And never underestimate the risks of fatigue, especially during early morning hours. If you’re getting value from this show, please support the show via PayPal, Venmo, Zelle or Patreon. Support the Show by buying a Lightspeed ANR Headsets Max has been using only Lightspeed headsets for nearly 25 years! I love their tradeup program that let’s you trade in an older Lightspeed headset for a newer model. Start with one of the links below, and Lightspeed will pay a referral fee to support Aviation News Talk. Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset $1199 Lightspeed Zulu 3 Headset $899 Lightspeed Sierra Headset $699 My Review on the Lightspeed Delta Zulu Send us your feedback or comments via email If you have a question you’d like answered on the show, let listeners hear you ask the question, by recording your listener question using your phone. Mentioned on the Show Buy Max Trescott’s G3000 Book Call 800-247-6553 Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset Giveaway Free Index to the first 282 episodes of Aviation New Talk So You Want To Learn to Fly or Buy a Cirrus seminars Online Version of the Seminar Coming Soon – Register for Notification Check out our recommended ADS-B receivers, and order one for yourself. Yes, we’ll make a couple of dollars if you do. Get the Free Aviation News Talk app for iOS or Android. Check out Max’s Online Courses: G1000 VFR, G1000 IFR, and Flying WAAS & GPS Approaches. Find them all at: https://www.pilotlearning.com/ Social Media Like Aviation News Talk podcast on Facebook Follow Max on Instagram Follow Max on Twitter Listen to all Aviation News Talk podcasts on YouTube or YouTube Premium “Go Around” song used by permission of Ken Dravis; you can buy his music at kendravis.com If you purchase a product through a link on our site, we may receive compensation.

384 NTSB News Talk podcast – Unpacking the Fatal Crash of a Citation Jet, N611VG Caused by Cabin Decompression

Max Trescott and Rob Mark launch the first episode of NTSB News Talk, diving into NTSB agency news, recent accidents and newly published NTSB reports to help pilots better understand accident causes and improve decision-making in the cockpit. Please help us improve the show by sending us your feedback here. To hear future episodes of NTSB News Talk, Follow or Subscribe to the show in your podcast app.

They begin with a surprising administrative shake-up: the unexplained termination of NTSB Vice Chairman Alvin Brown . Rob questions the lack of transparency, pointing out how an independent agency like the NTSB should not be subject to political scapegoating without clear justification. Max brings up that the NTSB is hiring .

Next, they turn to cockpit video recorders—a long-recommended safety item by the NTSB. While commercial pilots and unions resist them on privacy grounds, Max and Rob argue that video can play a vital role in understanding pilot behavior and causes of crashes, especially in general aviation where data is often limited. Rob references Matt Thurber’s editorial advocating for video recorders and highlights tools like CloudAhoy that already allow post-flight review.

The hosts then discuss several accidents. One involved a Cessna 207 in Alaska that crashed during a go-around, possibly due to a dog on the runway. They examine when it’s safer to land versus abort, and why go-around procedures—rarely practiced—are often poorly executed, even by experienced pilots.

Two Citabria crashes raise density altitude concerns. One near Big Creek, Idaho , ended with no survivors; the other, in Wyoming, occurred during a flight to spread ashes . A partial engine power loss, high terrain, and low climb capability proved fatal. Both hosts emphasize how critical it is for instructors to teach performance limitations in high-elevation operations, especially in underpowered aircraft.

Max talked about a Fireboss firefighting seaplane that ditched in the Atlantic, killing the pilot, while on a ferry flight to the Azores. He mentioned that experience ferry pilot Sarah Rovner talked in detail about ferry piloting issues in episode 379 of the Aviation News Talk podcast.

Another incident highlights poor weather decision-making. A Piper PA-28 crashed near Mount Equinox, Vermont after entering icing conditions in IMC. The non-instrument-rated pilot, traveling with family on a ski trip, stalled and crash-landed. The hosts explain how “get-there-itis” and poor weather avoidance can prove fatal, and caution against pressing on in marginal conditions—especially with passengers aboard.

The episode’s deep dive analyzes the fatal accident of N611VG, a Citation 560 over Virginia. The pilot lost cabin pressure at high altitude and became incapacitated due to insufficient supplemental oxygen. The aircraft, operating Part 91, had numerous maintenance discrepancies—including an empty oxygen bottle and neglected pressurization issues. The pilot and passengers perished. Rob emphasizes that maintenance negligence is a silent killer, and guests aboard privately owned aircraft may have no idea about their true safety risks.

Max and Rob conclude with a discussion on high-altitude emergency procedures, including explosive decompression response. They urge pilots to practice rapid descents to VMO and recognize the signs of hypoxia before it’s too late. Finally, they encourage all pilots—regardless of experience—to schedule a flight review with an instructor to refresh skills like go-arounds and emergency descents.

This debut episode delivers clear, actionable safety lessons and insider insight into real-world aviation accidents. It’s a must-listen for pilots, CFIs, aircraft owners, and anyone serious about flight safety and learning from the NTSB’s findings.

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282 Foggy Night: Unraveling the crash of a Cessna Citation 550 jet at French Valley in Southern California

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282 Max talks about the crash of N819KR, a Cessna Citation 550 jet, at French Valley in Southern California. The pilots flew two GPS approaches at 4 AM, while the field was below IFR minimums. After the first approach, they flew the published missed approach and flew a second approach as the weather worsened. On the second approach, they crashed 500 feet short of the runway.

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204 13 Recent General Aviation Accidents + GA News

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204 Max talks about 13 recent general aviation accidents. A Citation crashed after taking off with the parking brake on. A couple of planes crashed when pilots raised the landing gear instead of the flaps. A midair collision left tire tracks on the wing of a plane. Two CFIT crashes occurred, on at night and one in low visibility. More info on the crash of a Baron that was misfueled with Jet A.

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