374 NTSB Preliminary Report Out for Reagan National Midair Collision over Potomac River

The NTSB held a press conference to provide preliminary findings from the flight Max talks about new findings from the NTSB Preliminary Report on the midair collision over the Potomac River involving a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter and a PSA Airlines regional jet near Reagan National Airport (DCA). The episode features audio from NTSB Chairman Jennifer Homendy and DOT Secretary Sean Duffy, highlighting the systemic risks in the airspace.

The report reveals a history of frequent near-midair collisions at DCA, with 85 close encounters (under 200 feet vertical, 1,500 feet lateral separation) in the last two and a half years. A key issue is Route 4, where helicopters fly with only 75 feet of separation from aircraft on approach to Runway 33. The NTSB recommends closing Route 4 near DCA and establishing an alternative route.

The episode also discusses systemic normalization of deviance, where repeated near misses led to complacency. DOT plans major air traffic control upgrades, including AI monitoring for collision hotspots.

Max reviews details from the cockpit voice and flight data recorders, noting altitude discrepancies and miscommunications between ATC and the helicopter crew. He urges pilots to report hazards proactively, emphasizing that a culture of safety is critical to preventing future accidents.

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369 Reagan Midair: CVR and FDR Data Revealed at NTSB Press Conference

The NTSB held a press conference to provide preliminary findings from the flight data recorder (FDR) and cockpit voice recorder (CVR) related to the January 29 midair collision near Reagan National Airport between a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter and a PSA Airlines CRJ regional jet. The Black Hawk was conducting a checkride with night vision goggles and was following FAA-designated helicopter routes. The CRJ was cleared for a visual approach to Runway 33.

The investigation revealed discrepancies in altitude readings from the Black Hawk’s instruments, raising concerns about possible erroneous altimeter data. At 8:47:40 PM, the CRJ received an automated traffic advisory, and the tower instructed the Black Hawk to pass behind the CRJ. However, due to a transmission overlap, the Black Hawk may not have received the full instruction. Seconds later, the aircraft collided at approximately 313 feet altitude.

The NTSB is conducting a visibility study, examining night vision goggle effects, air traffic control communications, and ADS-B transmission issues. The agency commended the FAA’s temporary helicopter flight restrictions but has not determined if permanent changes are necessary. The full investigation is ongoing, with additional findings expected in the final report.

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368 NTSB Accident Investigation Process with Jeff Guzzetti

Max interviews Jeff Guzzetti, a former NTSB investigator, to discuss the Max interviews Jeff Guzzetti, an aviation safety consultant and former NTSB investigator, for an in-depth discussion on aviation accident investigations. Given the recent high-profile aviation incidents, Max and Jeff explore the detailed processes followed by investigators to determine probable causes and prevent future accidents.

Jeff begins by explaining ICAO Annex 13, the international framework governing accident investigations. This document ensures global cooperation, allowing manufacturers, regulatory bodies, and investigators from different countries to collaborate. He also defines key terminology, distinguishing between “accidents,” “incidents,” and “serious incidents,” and explaining how these classifications determine the level of NTSB involvement.

The NTSB is required by Congress to investigate all civil aviation accidents in the U.S., but due to resource constraints, they rely on FAA inspectors to gather information for smaller accidents, particularly those without fatalities. Jeff explains how the NTSB prioritizes major accidents, dispatching a GO team with specialists in areas such as human performance, engines, and flight systems.

For larger accidents, Jeff describes the party system, where manufacturers, airlines, and regulatory agencies provide technical expertise under strict confidentiality rules. The NTSB oversees and controls the investigation, ensuring objective findings. Jeff recalls past incidents where parties were removed from investigations for violating confidentiality, such as when the National Air Traffic Controllers Association (NATCA) was dismissed for unauthorized press briefings.

Max and Jeff discuss the critical role of black boxes—cockpit voice recorders (CVRs) and flight data recorders (FDRs). Jeff details the process of retrieving these devices, particularly when submerged in water, and the careful procedures used to extract and analyze data. He also explains how modern aircraft and even smaller GA planes with avionics like the Garmin 1000 can provide investigators with vital flight data, even when traditional black boxes are not available.

The conversation shifts to the hazards investigators face at accident scenes, including biohazards, sharp wreckage, extreme environmental conditions, and even the dangers of inhaling carbon fiber particles from burned composite materials. Jeff describes safety protocols, including protective suits and respirators, to mitigate these risks.

Mental health challenges for investigators are also addressed. Repeated exposure to tragic accidents, particularly those involving children, can take a psychological toll. Jeff highlights the NTSB’s Employee Assistance Program (EAP), which offers support and counseling, and explains that many investigators develop coping mechanisms to continue their work effectively.

Regarding the recent mid-air collision near Washington, D.C., Max asks how the high-profile nature of the accident—occurring at an airport frequently used by lawmakers—might affect the investigation. Jeff believes this will lead to heightened scrutiny but also ensure a thorough and well-documented investigation. He outlines the expected timeline, with a preliminary factual report within a few weeks, possible public hearings within months, and a final report with probable cause conclusions in about 18-24 months.

Jeff warns against jumping to conclusions based on early evidence, emphasizing that accidents often have multiple contributing factors. He discusses cognitive biases in accident investigation, where even experienced investigators may initially focus on familiar patterns rather than objectively analyzing all available data.

Towards the end of the episode, Max and Jeff talk about opportunities for those interested in aviation accident investigation. Jeff describes his teaching role at USC’s Aviation Safety Program, where he educates students on accident investigation techniques, human factors, and safety management systems. He also shares insights from his consulting work and role as an NBC aviation analyst.

The episode concludes with Jeff encouraging listeners to stay engaged in aviation safety and avoid premature speculation about accidents. He emphasizes the value of thorough investigations in making aviation safer for everyone.

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300 San Diego Cessna 340 Crash Final NTSB Report – Currency and Proficiency

Max talks about the final NTSB report results for a Cessna 340 that crashed in IMC while on approach into San Diego. The pilot’s logbook revealed that Instrument Proficiency Checks and Flight Review conducted during the prior year were cursory and did not meet the requirements for issuing those endorsements. Max talks about the problems with pencil whipping flight training and falsifying endorsements. He lists all of the elements required for an IPC, so you can ensure you’re getting all of the training required for an endorsement. ATC audio provided by LiveATC.net

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190 King Air 350 Crash Analysis with Seth Lake + GA News

190 King Air 350 Crash Analysis with Seth Lake + GA News

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190 Max talks with Seth Lake about the NTSB’s probable cause for a King Air 350 crash that killed ten people. There were a series of errors. The pilots did not call for any of the takeoff checklists or discuss what to do if an engine lost thrust on takeoff. The pilot responded to the emergency with left rudder input, the opposite action of what the emergency called for.

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177 Final NTSB Report: Kobe Bryant Helicopter Crash Explained & What Pilots Can Learn from It

177 Final NTSB Report: Kobe Bryant Helicopter Crash Explained & What Pilots Can Learn from It

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177 Kobe Bryant Helicopter Crash explained and what GA pilots can Learn from It. Max plays clips from the 4-hour NTSB Board meeting on Kobe Bryant Helicopter Crash. The pilot’s decision to continue flight under VFR and into IMC resulted in the pilot’s spatial disorientation and loss of control. The pilot’s likely self-induced pressure and plan continue continuation bias were also factors.

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156 Atlas Air Crash Flight 3591 Explained & What GA Pilots Can Learn from It

156 Atlas Air Crash Flight 3591 Explained & What GA Pilots Can Learn from It

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Max Trescott’s 156 Atlas Air Crash, Flight 3591 explained and what GA pilots can Learn from It. Max plays clips from the 4-hour NTSB Board meeting on the Atlas Air crash. The flight was normal until the 767 suddenly plummeted from 6,000 feet into a bay near Houston. Like most accidents, there were many factors that led to the crash. The event started when the First Officer accidentally engaged GA mode.

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144 3 Things To Do Immediately When Reporting an Accident per NTSB 830 + GA News

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144 3 Things To Do Immediately When Reporting an Accident per NTSB 830 + GA News

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144 Max talks about NTSB 830 and 3 things to do if you have an accident or incident. The three things you have to do are: 1) Notify the NTSB immediately of an accident or a serious incident. 2) The operator of the aircraft is responsible for preserving all wreckage to the extent possible. 3) The operator is required to file a report about any accident, though that can be up to ten days later.

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125 Deadly Propeller Accidents, B-17 Crash Update + GA News

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125 Deadly Propeller Accidents, B-17 Crash Update + GA News

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125 Max discusses the NTSB preliminary report on the B-17 crash. And we talk about propeller safety and a number of accidents in which people were killed or dismembered by a propeller. Propeller accidents are more common than you might think, and many happen at night when a spinning prop is almost impossible to see. NEVER let anyone in or out of a plane while the engine is still running.  

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56 ATC Visual Separation for Private Pilots Explained, NTSB Report on NYC Helicopter Accident + GA News

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