403 UPS MD-11 Crash Analysis + Dr. Catherine Cavagnaro on How to Make Better Landings

In this episode of Aviation News Talk, we begin with the developing details surrounding the crash of UPS Airlines Flight 2976, a McDonnell Douglas MD-11F cargo aircraft that crashed shortly after takeoff from Louisville, Kentucky. The aircraft, tail number N259UP, was a 34-year-old MD-11F powered by three General Electric CF6-80 engines.

Bystander video shows the left engine separated from the wing, with the wing engulfed in flames as the aircraft lifted off. ADS-B data indicates the aircraft climbed less than 100 feet before beginning a descending, left-turning roll from which it did not recover. The crew had already passed V1, meaning they were committed to takeoff and did not have adequate runway remaining to stop. In situations like this, flight crews may have no survivable option, and this accident may represent one of those rare but tragic scenarios.

We also compare aspects of this event to American Airlines Flight 191, the 1979 DC-10 crash at Chicago O’Hare. While both accidents involved the loss of the left engine on takeoff, the failure chain in AA191 involved slat retraction due to damaged hydraulic and control lines—failure modes later addressed in the MD-11 design. The MD-11’s slats are hydraulically locked to prevent unintended retraction, meaning the probable cause of this accident must differ in critical ways.

After the accident analysis, we shift to a practical, pilot-focused conversation about landings with returning guest Dr. Catherine Cavagnaro, columnist for AOPA and highly respected flight instructor and DPE. Drawing on more than a thousand check rides, Catherine explains that the most consistent problem she sees is pilots flying final approach too fast. While pilots often worry about being too slow, the data shows that excessive approach speed is far more common and contributes to long landing rolls, excessive float, bounced landings, and pilot-induced oscillations.

Catherine and Max discuss how a correct approach speed provides the right amount of energy to land smoothly and in control. More power and speed make it harder to manage the flare and to touch down where intended. Pilots also frequently fail to align the aircraft longitudinal axis with the runway before touchdown, particularly in crosswinds, due to hesitation in applying sufficient rudder and aileron. Catherine explains that as the aircraft slows, flight controls become less effective, so pilots should expect to use more control input in the final seconds before touchdown—not less.

The conversation also explores landing accuracy, noting that pilots should strive to touch down within 200–400 feet of a target point—not “somewhere down the runway.” Even on long runways, building accuracy pays dividends when landing at shorter fields or during check rides.

A useful data tool Catherine recommends is FlySto (flysto.net), which allows pilots with modern avionics to upload flight data and analyze approach speed, pitch attitude, touchdown point, crab angle, rollout direction, and braking forces. By reviewing objective data, pilots can identify habits and improve their consistency over time.

Whether you’re teaching new pilots, returning to flying after a break, or simply want your landings to be more stable and predictable, Catherine’s techniques offer actionable steps: choose the correct approach speed, use proper crosswind controls, flare to a nose-high attitude, and maintain precision with touchdown point selection.

Together, the accident analysis and the landing discussion reinforce a core theme of this show: aviation skills improve with deliberate practice, continuous learning, and a deep respect for the realities of risk, energy management, and aircraft control.

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281 What’s Wrong about the 70-50 Takeoff Rule with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

281 What’s Wrong about the 70-50 Takeoff Rule with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

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281 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about the Myth of the 70-50 takeoff rule and what’s wrong with it. It seems that 70-50 rule is extracted from a basic but unrealistic model for aircraft takeoffs that ignores air resistance. The same model predicts her Bonanza will go supersonic shortly after takeoff. Even if the rule were valid, a pilot wouldn’t rotate until the last inch of the runway.

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213 Why You Should Join a Type Club – Interview Catherine Cavagnaro

213 Why You Should Join a Type Club – Interview Catherine Cavagnaro

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213 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about aircraft type clubs and why pilots should join one. There are more than a hundred of them, yet only a fraction of pilots belong to one. Yet they offer the best value proposition in aviation: they’re cheap and they could save your life. Most type clubs offer a newsletter or magazine and many have a web site loaded with aircraft details. 

As I wrote in a blog article for AOPA eight years ago, “Give yourself an early Christmas present: Join the type club for the aircraft you fly most frequently. But don’t just write a check; become an active participant. Whether you own or rent, you’re bound to learn more about the intricacies of that aircraft model. And if your family is lucky, what you learn as a type club member may someday save your life…and possibly their lives too.”

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American Bonanza Society
Cessna 150/152 Club
Cessna Pilots Association
COPA – Cirrus Owner Pilots Association
Lake Amphibian Club
AOPA’s Type Club Listings
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AOPA Pilot Magazine Articles by Catherine Cavagnaro
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208 Commercial Flight Training, Fly Like a Pro, It’s the Little Things that Count with Catherine Cavagnaro

208 Commercial Flight Training, Fly Like a Pro, It’s the Little Things that Count with Catherine Cavagnaro

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208 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about 36 things pilots can do to improve, so they’ll fly more professionally and increase the odds of passing the Private and Commercial checkrides. These include preflight briefings, taxiing, the run up, clearing turns, preparing for landing, crosswind landings, braking, and prop blast. She also talks about The University of the South aviation program.

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AOPA Pilot Magazine Articles by Catherine Cavagnaro
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198 Pilot Induced Oscillations with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News with Rob Mark

198 Pilot Induced Oscillations with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News with Rob Mark

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198 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about PIO or pilot induced oscillation. A video version of our conversation, viewable by listeners who support the show via Patreon.com at the $20/month level, includes four pilot induced oscillation videos. Rob Mark gives an update on AirVenture announcements including Garmin’s Smart Glide, GAMI’s new G100UL unleaded fuel, and the Diamond DA50RG airplane.

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193 Two SR20 Takeoff Accidents plus Performance Charts with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

193 Two SR20 Takeoff Accidents plus Performance Charts with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

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193 Max talks with Catherine Cavagnaro about her insights into POH takeoff performance charts. He also talked about two recent SR20 takeoff accidents. One occurred at Truckee Airport, where Max had been twice before in recent weeks, both times in SR20s. The other occurred in Arkansas after a pilot took off with his pitot cover on and did a base to final spin after flying a very low traffic pattern.

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#99 Air Force Pilot Crash in Cirrus SR22
#130 SR22 Crash into House in Southern California
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180 What You Should Know about Flaps with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

180 What You Should Know about Flaps with Catherine Cavagnaro + GA News

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180 Max talks with pilot examiner Catherine Cavagnaro about flaps and some misperceptions about them. Catherine starts by sharing two checkride stories where there were issues with knowledge about flaps. Max also answers listener questions, including one about using a GPS glide path for flying visual approaches and another from a new CFI about when to start teaching student pilots to use a GPS.

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TSA Jobs Website
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Train on a Runway in New Zealand
Airline Pilot Guy Podcast
Electric Airplane Air Race
Best Aviation Jokes – M&R Joke Hour episode 29
Matthew Brooder’s First Solo Flight
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79 AOPA Carbondale Interviews with Jack Pelton, Adrian Eichhorn, and Catherine Cavagnaro, Red Bull Update + GA News

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AOPA Carbondale Fly-in Interviews
Max interviews a dozen pilots at the AOPA Carbondale, IL Regional Fly-in including EAA President Jack Pelton, round-the-world Bonanza pilot Adrian Eichhorn, and 2018 FAASTeam Rep of the Year Catherine Cavagnaro, who is an expert in spin training and writes for AOPA Pilot magazine.

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Cirrus Migration 16 Event – Las Vegas, October 11-14, 2018
Podcasting on a Plane Episode 31 with Max Trescott
AOPA Region Fly-In Gulf Shores, AL

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Video of Helicopter Blades Snagging Rope During Rescue
AOPA ASI recreation: Houston Hobby SR20 Traffic Pattern Accident
AOPA ASI Recreation: SR22 in the pattern at Melbourne, FL
State Police Helicopter Buzzing Incident at Penn State
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