380 Max Trescott on Aviation Safety, Judgment, and Human Performance on Dr. Tony Kern’s podcast + ForeFlight News

In this special crossover episode, Max Trescott, host of the Aviation News Talk podcast, appears as a guest on Dr. Tony Kern’s Only Human podcast. The two aviation safety advocates engage in a candid, insightful conversation that bridges their shared backgrounds in aviation, safety culture, and leadership.

The episode begins with a segment called “This Week in Safety Land,” spotlighting a tragic helicopter crash involving tourists over the Hudson River. The Director of Operations (DO) at the company involved chose to cease operations pending investigation, only to be overruled and fired by the CEO—prompting FAA intervention. Max and Tony reflect on this as a textbook example of the ongoing conflict between operational production and safety protection, a dynamic familiar in aviation, military, and corporate environments alike. They explore how profit-driven decisions often undermine safety, and how organizations with high-risk operations must prioritize a culture that empowers safety-conscious leadership.

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Tony shares a story of elephants at the San Diego Zoo sensing an earthquake before it was perceptible to humans—forming a protective circle around the young. Max likens this to the importance of organizational structures that support bottom-up safety communication. Drawing on his early career at Hewlett-Packard, he praises HP’s open-door policy that encouraged employees to escalate safety issues when necessary. He stresses that open communication channels are essential, especially in high-risk domains.

Max then shares his personal journey from a successful 25-year career at HP to full-time aviation after a layoff. What began as a side hobby teaching flying eventually evolved into a full-time vocation, spurred in part by a deeply personal tragedy: the death of a close friend and five others in a preventable aircraft accident. Max, who arrived on the crash scene within 45 minutes and attended multiple funerals that week, found a new purpose—preventing similar accidents by educating pilots.

That experience drove Max to start Aviation News Talk, where he strives to deliver rich, actionable content on general aviation safety. His mission: to save lives by making safety knowledge accessible, engaging, and relevant to every pilot—from student to professional. He explains that his podcast is designed to offer “at least one nugget of value per episode” that listeners can apply immediately.

Tony and Max discuss the unglamorous public perception of safety roles—often viewed as dull or punitive. Tony notes that safety officers are often assigned the job after incidents or during grounding periods. Max offers a reframing: don’t lead with safety—lead with professionalism. If pilots strive to be excellent in their craft, safety naturally follows. “Do your job well, be curious, be disciplined,” Max says—traits that elevate both personal performance and safety outcomes.

They turn to current trends, asking whether aviation is getting less safe. While total accident numbers may be down, Max points out that media coverage is up, and many general aviation (GA) accidents—especially runway excursions involving business jets—suggest continued risks. What matters more than raw numbers, he explains, is the accident rate per 100,000 hours flown, data that lags by over a year. For GA pilots, the accident risk remains significant, especially among newer or less experienced pilots.

Looking forward, Max and Tony explore the safety challenges of tomorrow. Max debunks the idea of achieving a static “safe state” and explains that aviation is inherently dynamic—subject to changes in personnel, technology, weather, and processes. He highlights the importance of conducting safety assessments prior to changes in operations, procedures, or equipment. Quoting safety expert Todd Conklin, Max describes accidents as “the unexpected combination of normal aviation variability,” reinforcing the need for ongoing vigilance.

Tony adds that while technological innovations—like AI, automation, and real-time training—offer efficiency, they don’t guarantee increased safety. Often, humans simply push the margins when given better tools. He uses anti-lock brakes as an analogy: rather than driving more safely, people just drive faster. Similarly, faster, cheaper training methods could reduce experience levels without solving core human performance issues.

The conversation closes with Max outlining the timeless characteristics of a great aviator:

  • Judgment – the most critical trait, separating the skilled from the safe.
  • Curiosity – a desire to learn, explore, and seek out knowledge.
  • Discipline and consistency – following procedures and making flights “boring” in the best way.
  • Situational awareness – understanding not just your own position, but what everyone else in the airspace is trying to do.
  • Humility – recognizing that overconfidence kills and that learning never stops.

Max emphasizes that aviation teaches life skills: staying humble, seeking excellence, and always being ready to learn. He ends by inviting listeners to consider flight training—not just for fun, but as a profound growth experience. Learning to fly, he says, can change how you see the world and yourself.

Tony echoes the sentiment, encouraging listeners to take a discovery flight and explore the possibility. As the episode wraps, both hosts agree: while aviation may be unforgiving, it offers unmatched rewards for those who approach it with professionalism and passion.

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379 Ferry Pilot Flying, Everything Explained with Sarah Rovner + GA News

Max talks with ferry pilot Sarah Rovner, founder of Full Throttle Aviation, about her adventures and challenges flying planes across continents. Sarah stumbled into ferry flying when she helped deliver a plane and quickly found herself flying everything from gliders to agricultural aircraft across Central America and even the Atlantic. Her unique edge wasn’t just piloting—it was handling the complex international paperwork required for cross-border flights.
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Sarah explains the nuances of flying foreign-registered aircraft, using handlers, and dealing with customs and regulatory hurdles in countries like Mexico and Canada. She shares hair-raising tales like flying over the Arctic in winter in a Cessna 210, discovering a failed axle, and performing repairs in subzero temps. She’s faced oxygen failures, ferry tank malfunctions, and the infamous “ice bridging” during Atlantic crossings. Despite the flat-rate pay and frequent mechanical delays, Sarah loves the freedom, camaraderie, and adventure. She also trains and mentors pilots, including retirees and aspiring time-builders, emphasizing the importance of judgment over just stick-and-rudder skills. Her company now provides aircraft imports, paperwork, and check rides, and she encourages others interested in ferry work to learn multiple aircraft types and fly smart. If you’re getting value from this show, please support the show via PayPal, Venmo, Zelle or Patreon. Support the Show by buying a Lightspeed ANR Headsets Max has been using only Lightspeed headsets for nearly 25 years! I love their tradeup program that let’s you trade in an older Lightspeed headset for a newer model. Start with one of the links below, and Lightspeed will pay a referral fee to support Aviation News Talk. Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset $1199 Lightspeed Zulu 3 Headset $899 Lightspeed Sierra Headset $699 My Review on the Lightspeed Delta Zulu Send us your feedback or comments via email If you have a question you’d like answered on the show, let listeners hear you ask the question, by recording your listener question using your phone. News Stories Mentioned on the Show Buy Max Trescott’s G3000 Book Call 800-247-6553 Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset Giveaway Video of the Week: SR22 Pilot Induced Oscillation Max’s Max Impact FLYING magazine column: February Stop the prop by Barry Schiff Free Index to the first 282 episodes of Aviation New Talk So You Want To Learn to Fly or Buy a Cirrus seminars Online Version of the Seminar Coming Soon – Register for Notification Check out our recommended ADS-B receivers, and order one for yourselfYes, we’ll make a couple of dollars if you do. Get the Free Aviation News Talk app for iOS or Android. Check out Max’s Online Courses: G1000 VFR, G1000 IFR, and Flying WAAS & GPS Approaches. Find them all at: https://www.pilotlearning.com/ Social Media Like Aviation News Talk podcast on Facebook Follow Max on Instagram Follow Max on Twitter Listen to all Aviation News Talk podcasts on YouTube or YouTube Premium “Go Around” song used by permission of Ken Dravis; you can buy his music at kendravis.com If you purchase a product through a link on our site, we may receive compensation.

296 Blinded by a Laser Beam: How a Pilot Fought for Justice + GA News

Join Max Trescott as he delves into an astonishing real-life story with Jonathan Fay, who was struck by a laser while flying, and against all odds, tracked down the perpetrator. The criminal used a powerful industrial laser to target his aircraft and immediately afterwards, Jonathan could not see any of his instruments. He did succeed in landing, though he had eye damage that lasted for several weeks. Tune in to discover the gripping details of how Jonathan leveraged the vast tools of the internet to unmask the identity of the laser-wielding perpetrator.

An arrest was made, and last week the man pled guilty. This is a remarkable story of resilience, investigation, and ultimately, justice served. Don’t miss this riveting episode!

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160 Electric Aircraft 2020 and Why You’ll Want One – Interview with George Bye

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160 George Bye has been on a 12-year quest to make electric aircraft a reality. He explains the many benefits to electric aircraft including aerodynamic efficiency since the aircraft nose can be smaller, improved propeller efficiency, vastly lower operating cost, no CO2, lower noise, and more reliable. He also discusses the purchase price and delivery timetable for the eFlyer 2.

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158 Emergency Landing of Student Pilot, Instructor Passes Out – Interview Max Sylvester

158 Emergency Landing of Student Pilot, Instructor Passes Out – Interview Max Sylvester

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158 Last year, Australian student pilot Max Sylvester was taking his third flight lesson when his instructor had a seizure and passed out in the cockpit. Max managed to set the radio to the Jandakot Airport tower frequency and declare an emergency. Over the next hour, the air traffic controller, with the help of an instructor from Max’s flight school, talked Max down to a a successful landing.

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152 Understanding Aircraft Renters Insurance and the Starr Gate App + GA News

152 Understanding Aircraft Renters Insurance and the Starr Gate App + GA News

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152 Max talks with airline pilot and entrepreneur Rod Rakic about renters insurance and Starr Gate, an innovative new iPad app that lets you buy renters insurance by the month. Pilots can also earn discounts on their insurance by uploading data from recent flights and having the Starr Gate app automatic score pilot proficiency and safety using CloudAhoy’s CFI Assistant.

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147 Essential Tips on Aircraft Ownership – Interview with Mike Busch of Savvy Aviation

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147 Essential Tips on Aircraft Ownership – Interview with Mike Busch of Savvy Aviation

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147 Max talks with Mike Busch, author of four books on general aviation piston aircraft maintenance, about essential aircraft ownership tips. Mike talks about how to protect aircraft engines from corrosion if the plane isn’t flown and about post-maintenance test flights and how they should be flown. He also relates horror stories of pilots who tried to save money by buying a cheap airplane.

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124 B-17 Crash, General Aviation Accidents, Nall Report, and CBD Oil + GA News

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124 B-17 Crash, General Aviation Accidents, Nall Report, and CBD Oil + GA News

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124 We discuss the B-17 crash and possible causes. Max summarizes GA accident data from the AOPA Nall report. GA accidents have declined over the last ten years, and the fatal accident rate has dropped substantially Landings are the most common accident type. Experimental aircraft accidents have declined, but still have accidents at a higher rate than other aircraft. A listener asks about CBD Oil.  

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113 Understanding Aircraft Electrical Systems and Failures + General Aviation News

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Max talks about Aircraft Electrical Systems and Failures using the Cessna 172 and Cirrus SR22 as examples. Alternators, Generators, voltage regulators, and batteries are discussed. Common electrical system failures and the checklists to be followed are discussed for low voltage situations and for over voltage and over current situations.

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111 SR22 Icing Accident and Tailplane Stalls + General Aviation News

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111 Max talks about a SR22 icing accident that killed a client. Meteorologist Scott Dennstaedt analyzes the weather, which had severe icing in clouds, and talks about tools pilots can use in preflight to identify possible icing. Ice often forms first on the tail. Tailplane stalls pitch an aircraft down and require a different recovery method than wing stalls. Speeds were too high to use the parachute.

The accident aircraft was a normally aspirated SR22 which had a TKS anti-icing system, but not the more robust FIKI system that permits flight in known icing. The aircraft didn’t have built-in oxygen, which may be why the aircraft was flown at the 14,000 feet, the maximum altitude at which a pilot can fly for up to 30 minutes without supplemental oxygen. The minimum en route altitude was 13,300 feet, so when the pilot encountered ice, he was unable to descend.

For the first eleven minutes at 14,000 feet, flight data appeared normal. But in the next three minutes the aircraft’s speed decreased by 60 knots, while climbing 600 feet, or about 200 feet per minute, suggesting the aircraft had picked up a heavy load of ice. The aircraft then disappeared.

Simulations show that in a tailplane stall, an aircraft pitches down sharply and rapidly increases speed. Most likely, the accident aircraft reached 200 knots in about five seconds, which would be too fast to deploy the CAPS parachute. Recovery from a tailplane are the opposite of a wing stall that pilots practice. To recover, a pilot needs to pull back on the yoke an reduce power.

SR22 Accident and Icing-Related Links
Preliminary NTSB Report for SR22 Utah crash
Flightaware.com Flight Track for the SR22
Kathryn’s Report and Photos for the SR22
Scott Dennstaedt’s Weather Book
Scott Dennstaedt’s Website
Cirrus Learning Portal – Icing Awareness Course

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EAA Chapter 20 at San Carlos, CA 
Where’s My Airport web site
Stolen Airplane Radios
Riley’s Youtube channel
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